Anne de Courcy and Philip Norman
Marsha Hunt performing on Top of the Pops in 1970. |
American singer Marsha Hunt has sold the love letters written to her by Mick Jagger in 1969. They were the centrepiece of an English literature and history sale at Sotheby's – which also included Rolling Stones memorabilia. They fetched £187,250 – considerably more than the guide price of £70,000-£100,000. Hunt, then the "face" of the West End production of Hair, had an affair with Jagger at a time when his relationship with Marianne Faithfull was apparently under strain. Today Hunt is living in France, and has declared "I'm broke", adding that the reason she was selling the letters was because she had been unable to pay her bills. But should one ever sell love letters?
Letters – maybe. But love letters? No. Shortage of money is a powerful incentive, and the knowledge that you are sitting on something so potentially lucrative must be a huge temptation. Put it – or rather them – on the market and your troubles are over, at least for the time being. But love, whether past or present, is not only a private matter; more importantly, it is between two people – both of whom have the right to keep private feelings private. Hunt may feel happy about revealing the intimacies of past passion, but what about Jagger? Even someone who spends much of his life on a stage may not want his deepest feelings publicly displayed and for sale.
Philip Norman, novelist, biographer and journalist
Even acknowledging your general principle (which I don't), this is a very special case. Hunt began her affair with Jagger in 1969, before the era of scurrilous tabloids and fortunes to be made from kiss-and-tell. His letters to her were written in New South Wales, Australia, where he was starring in a biopic of the 19th-century outlaw Ned Kelly. Hunt did not cause his separation from Marianne Faithfull; it was Faithfull's descent into a spiral of heroin use, which ultimately almost killed her. By Hunt's account – never disputed by Jagger – he then told her he wanted to have a child with her. But when a baby daughter, Karis, was born in 1970, he denied paternity. It was eight years before a (US) court ordered him to pay proper child support. And never once did Hunt threaten to sell her story to the tabloids; in fact, she behaved with amazing dignity and restraint throughout. Her take from the Sotheby's sale is still a pittance compared with what modern ex-mistresses wring from megastars.
Anyway, these letters were hardly testaments of grand passion but chit-chat from the film set and about events such as the Isle of Wight pop festival and the moon landing. If they had been at all explosive, you can bet Jagger would have initiated legal moves to stop Hunt selling them (which he could, since they remain his copyright.) Far more revealing would have been his letters to his girlfriend Chrissie Shrimpton, whom he'd dumped for Faithfull. Years later, a (false) rumour reached him that Shrimpton intended to sell a cache of the letters. A legal sledgehammer came into play, and in terror she sent the whole lot back to him.
ADC: Clearly Hunt behaved very well over the affair, and the baby. But for me that doesn't alter the general principle (though I do wonder why if, as you say, these letters are simply "chit chat", they are called love letters) that everyone is entitled to privacy in their private lives. And that even if one of you doesn't mind revealing your half of an affair, the other half might.
Despite the let-it-all-hang-out philosophy today, I still believe this desire for privacy is a general human feeling – look at the outraged squalls of celebrities who have been outed in some amatory misdoing or other. And, look, we've just had the biggest-ever privacy debate in the shape of the Leveson inquiry. And it wasn't the delicacy and modest restraint of the press that was complained of by Hugh Grant et al.
In my biographies, I've often had to consider the question of highly personal letters – usually love letters. Even when the two people concerned have died, sons, daughters, brothers or sisters are often extraordinarily sensitive about the exposure of aspects of the subjects' lives.
Of course letters are the property of anyone they're sent to. But there's also very much a sense of "what I write is mine". Not for nothing is that enshrined in British law in the form of copyright.
PN: They were billed as "love letters", of course, to jack up the price at auction. Hunt later called them "laughing, sad, pensive, deep, observant and touching" but I'd describe them more as "like letters", for they do reveal the softer side of Mick. A specially sweet and supportive one reached Hunt to wish her luck when she played at the Isle of Wight pop festival. An exploding prop pistol had injured his right hand, so he wrote with his left.
Certainly, we all have a right to privacy – and most of us have interrupted enjoyment of it. I, for one, do not expect any of my former girlfriends ever to pitch up at Sotheby's with the gruesomely embarrassing love letters I wrote them. In one, I recall, some paroxysm of forgotten passion made me say I felt like "a leper". Unfortunately, that particular inamorata had a touch of word blindness. "Why did you say you felt like a leopard?" she asked me when we next met.
But we have to admit that celebrities – as F Scott Fitzgerald said of the rich – "are different from you and me". Some, indeed – Mick Jagger certainly among them – will end up in the history books, the quarry of historical biographers such as you, Anne. Is it only the death of the subject and all his family that legitimises publication of their intimate correspondence? Should there be a 50-year rule, as for classified state documents? And might there not be a great-great-great-nephew somewhere who still gets upset?
Anyway: get real. If we didn't want to give pain, why did we become writers?
ADC: Philip, am just wondering if you meant "uninterrupted" not "interrupted" in first line of your second par? I think you're arguing about the particular, Hunt and the "like letters" – as I must now learn to call them – while I'm talking of the general principle: whatever the circumstances, is it right to sell love letters while the writer is still alive?
And for me, I'm afraid it's still a clear, committed and instinctive "no". I didn't even have to think when asked that question.
I don't want to sound too heavy, but for me love is the most precious and powerful of the emotions, and getting rid of the words that express that bond, for cash, has something wrong about it – in a sense, it's almost like selling yourself. Even if the person concerned will one day be a historical character, doing so is still a kind of car-boot sale of the emotions.
I'm also sure that one reason why most of us would hate any love letter we wrote to be made public is not just the revelation of our most secret emotions and fantasies but, as you say, sheer embarrassment – think of the squirm-making language used by Edward VIII to Wallis Simpson. It beats "leper" any time – though I shall always think of you as a leopard.
PN: Yes, I meant "interrupted". How can I tax that old inamorata with word blindness? I have no problem with what you say about love. But, as the Everly Brothers sang, it's "so sad to watch good love go bad".
You can be pretty sure that when love letters go under the auctioneer's hammer, love on both sides has long since gone well and truly stinko. There is unlikely to be a still-bleeding heart to be pierced by arguments over the reserve price. Rather than "selling herself" by wringing this small pension payment from a multimillionaire rock star, Hunt may well feel that she "sold" herself in the first instance – and a sight too cheaply at that.
On a general point, I only said my squirm-making love letters were unworthy to enter the public domain. That certainly wasn't true of Edward VIII's to Wallis Simpson, which forensically expose the foibles of this fitting ancestor of Prince Charles. And in the even more squirm-making letters of Edith Thompson to her young lover Frederick Bywaters (written in mock-Irish brogue) are the makings of a famous 1920s murder and miscarriage of justice.
I like the idea of a car-boot sale of the emotions. Isn't it what we journalists do every day? Vengefulness may turn some spurned women into mercenary old boots. But leave Marsha Hunt out of that.
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Personally, I don’t really care when the person doing it is no more than an ordinary person. However, since the person doing it in this case is a celebrity, I will disagree with her action of selling the love letters Mick Jagger once wrote to her. The reason being is the fact that her action will very much be judged, and followed by her fans. Also, there are two other additional reasons. The first one is that Hunt is violating the privacy of Mick Jagger by not asking for his consent regarding the selling of the love letters he wrote. Without his consent, no one, including Marsha Hunt herself, knows exactly what Mick has to say about all this. It’s no more different than not inviting the father or the mother in the family (that is if they’re still together) in a meeting aimed to discuss whether to stay or relocate to a new residence. The second reason is more to the effect that Hunt’s action would bring to the society in contribution to the development of the younger generations’ morals and values. The thing is, every single action that we do in our daily life follows a single principle that is also applicable to other actions, no matter how different and trivial these actions are compared to one another. If, in the future, selling love letters would no longer be seen as something that was morally wrong, then a possibility emerged that the people living in that future could have already been too desensitised to see other unacceptable actions as something common and acceptable.
ReplyDeleteBased on your opinion, I couldn’t agree more on your point that Hunt should've asked for Mick Jagger’s consent regarding the issue of selling the love letter. However, I would like to point out a thing regarding Hunt’s situation. If you read closely to Hunt’s reasoning on why she sold the letter, you’ll find out the reason why she sold the letter, which was a financial issue. The reason why Hunt auctioned the letter was that she needed money to survive, so she could pay her bills. If Hunt were to ask Jagger’s permission regarding selling the letter, the chances are Mick Jagger wouldn’t even going to let her sell it. Jagger wouldn’t even give the permission to Hunt to sell it because he’s afraid that people will bring up his past relationship with Hunt. Another possibility is that Mick Jagger might even want the letter back from Hunt due to safety reason if Hunt were to bring back the issue she had with Mick Jagger. There’s really a two side to this issue. In the point of view of Mick Jagger, it’s regarded as privacy violation but in Hunt’s point of view it’s regarded as a necessary thing to do since she needed the money to survive and asking for Jagger consent will lead to her to being able to get the money to pay her bills.
DeleteI do not agree with what Martha Hunt did. I do believe that privacy is important and everyone have the right to protect their privacy. Selling Mick Jagger’s love letter that personally addressed to her without Mick’s consent is considered to be intolerable and it crossed the privacy boundary. Even though their affair was controversial and has created several conflicts, Hunt’s action is inappropriate as there are more ways to overcome their problems. In addition, they are celebrities, hence, their actions will catch people attention and will be exposed to the world. This aspect is not only applied to them as celebrities but it is also applied to other people. What would you feel if someone display your personal interactions or even affections on public? It would have been such a harassing experience and it would also cause conflicts. In conclusion, selling love letters or doing other things that crossed people's privacy boundary is intolerable and inappropriate as each person should have their own privacy.
ReplyDeleteAfter reading this article, I could conclude that from this case – Marsha Hunt sold her 1969 love letters from Mick Jagger – the privacy of Mick Jagger is violated. From my point of view, love is something that is special and private to everyone’s life. It should not be exposed to the public; unless the two people in relationship intended to. Love letters from a man should never be sold by a woman to any individual, also vice versa. I also agree with Anne de Courcy’s statement about copyright. She said “what I write is mine”. Jagger has the right about what he wanted to do with all the writings that he wrote, including love letters; Hunt didn’t have any right to sell or exposing the love letters Jagger had given to her, even if they’re no longer together. In the first paragraph of the article, it’s written that that Hunt sold the letters because she couldn’t pay her bills. However, since Jagger is so famous, I have a feeling that she intended to bump up her fame as well. This is just my assumption though. What do you guys think?
ReplyDeleteI don’t personally agree with what she did. If I were I him I would’ve been really angry since letters are personal. Especially love letters. They are words of yours written in papers. They are meant to be intimate and private. They are meant to be something that is kept between the person who wrote it and the person who received it. My parents used to send letters to each other when they were younger and I never even got the chance to read them because I don’t want to disturb their privacies although I am technically their daughter. Until today, I still think love letters are beautiful. Sending love letters to your significant other is such an old school yet meaningful gesture. In my opinion, it is truly heartbreaking knowing that people don’t really send love letters anymore these days. People prefer to send their words through social medias and text messages. I just wish that people would send love letters to each other again so that it would be like the old days.
ReplyDeleteWhat Marsha Hunt did; selling love letters she received from Mick Jagger, is a violation of privacy. Love letters are romantic and private therefore they are supposed to be a shared secret between the sender and the receiver. Thus, the owner of the letter is both of them so if Marsha Hunt wants to sell the love letters, she needs to ask for Mick Jagger’s permission. However, at that moment, Marsha Hunt had a financial crisis so the reason behind selling the letters was to get some money to support her life. If Marsha Hunt ask for Mick Jagger’s consent, he would of course say no because it is his privacy and he might feel embarrassed if what he wrote to Marsha Hunt is exposed to the public. Both of them are celebrities so they would want to keep a good image of themselves. There are two sides of the story but I still believe what Marsha Hunt did is immoral and she could get money using other ways as she is a celebrity.
ReplyDeleteInfidelity is a common thing nowadays. Although many condemned that action, there are many psychological reasons and explanations backing it up. Mick Jagger was depressed at the moment, or felt unwanted to be exact, due to her lover at the moment, Marianne Faithful, was addicted to heroin and had an unhealthy lifestyle. Marsha Hunt, offers consolation and comfort for Mick at the time, and even though she was married at that time, they started an affair. The result of this affair is the birth of their daughter, Karis Jagger. The existence of Jagger and Hunt’s affair resulted in the breakdown of Marriane Faithful, who is ironically faithful to Mick Jagger. When Marsha Hunt was revealed to be pregnant, Mick Jagger didn’t confess to be the biological father and denied a paternity test. Perhaps this fact became a factor of her decision to publicized the love letters from Jagger to her, to reveal their affair.
ReplyDeletePersonally from my perspective, I do not agree to the act of publicizing love letters. To be honest, it is kind of disturbing or violates the privacy of the other subject. It is not ethical to condone such actions. But on the other hand, Marsha Hunt have a right to reveal those letters to the public. She was carrying the child of Mick Jagger, and Jagger himself did not confess or agree that he was the father. Maybe to most people, Marsha Hunt’s method is wrong, but to me it’s an exception, and praise to her for delivering her objective on point. The conclusion is that there are factors and valid explanations on why this action is not good for not only the moral of individuals, but also the mental state of mind and the psychological damage it can cause to the other subject. So even though Marsha Hunt had a reason, an act like this still can’t be copied or reenacted.
DeleteAfter reading this article about Marsha Hunt who wants to sell her love letter from Mick Jagger, I think Marsha should not do that. What she will do with the letter actually her right and she can do anything to it, because she already received it from Jagger in 1969. I think love letter is a private thing and not for public consumption. I agree with Anne de Courcy that stated, Hunt may feel happy to revealing the intimacies of past passion, but what about Mick Jagger? He maybe not feel the same way, if Mick Jagger feel disturbed by his love letter to Marsha Hunt being sold and seen publicly, Hunt is actually violating privacy on Jagger. Maybe Marsha Hunt should ask for permission to Mick Jagger when she wants to sell the love letter. Even though it will be rejected, she can try to explain her conditions to Jagger that she had been unable to pay her bills.
ReplyDeleteWhen we talk about the love, we talk about the deep emotion which lies beneath our mind, our heart, and our soul. It is the core of every human being. We shouldn’t have to try to look at the other people if we want to show it especially to the one whom we love really much. It is already inside ourselves. Look at yourselves. Look deep inside you and you will find it.
ReplyDeleteIt is the greatest, the most amazing, and the most valuable value that lies inside us. It is a pity if we can’t even find that kind of a value inside us. It is the mistake of our perspective if we prefer to take a shortcut just to show how much we love a human.
It is far beyond the money or even every countable object in the world. It is the most valuable value which lies inside us. Don’t buy a love letter. Look inside you, write a letter, send that letter to her. It is as simple as that.
I do not agree with what Marsha Hunt did. Privacy is something that is very important to me. That is why I respect other people’s privacy as well, and I take matters regarding privacy seriously. People should have their own right to protect their privacy. In this case, Marsha Hunt violated Mick Jagger’s privacy since he didn’t have a say in whether or not he wants the love letters he wrote to be exposed or sold in public. Marsha Hunt used her own and Mick Jagger’s popularity as a tool to help herself financially. In my opinion, there should be a lot of other ways for her to solve her financial problems. She shouldn’t single-handedly decide to sell those letters, especially when Mick Jagger and her are both celebrities, or public figures that the public would look up to. If she really wanted to sell those letters, she should’ve made sure Mick Jagger is okay with it.
ReplyDeleteAfter reading the article above, I do not agree of what Marsha Hunt did. I do not agree because I do think everyone have their own right of privacy, doesn’t matter if it is an ordinary person or a famous person. This is a wrong move from Marsha Hunt because she can’t just sell love letters that Mick Jagger wrote for her, this love letter of course should be personal for both Marsha Hunt and Mick Jagger. On those letter I do think Mick Jagger write about his feelings for her, that should be read only by Marsha Hunt since Mick wrote it for her in the first place. Other than that, Marsha shouldn’t do something without Mick Jagger’s consent. Despite their controversial affairs, I still do not agree with Marsha Hunt’s action and not to forgot that they are celebrities and their action will for sure looked by other people and there is a chance people will follow her action.
ReplyDeleteI think Marsha Hunt’s action of selling her love letter was wrong. I understand that she was very desperate for money but I still do not think that selling her love letters was something she should have done. The love letter from Mick Jagger was full of words and emotions that only she was meant to read and see, if not, he would not make it a letter and send it to her personally. He could have made it into a song or a poem if he wanted the letter to be read by everyone, but he sent it to her in secret. I think love letters are very precious and beautiful things, even if the relationship was not good or happened a long time ago. The love letter could have still been keep by Marsha to remember the love and memories between her and Mick Jagger, especially now that he’s gone.
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