"Friendship can end in love,
but love in friendship, never!"
[NOTE: In this sentence, "end" means 'result in' or 'lead to', it does not mean 'finish'.
And "love in friendship" means 'love ending but continuing friendship'.]
What are your thoughts on this old saying?
I'm going to make it a little more difficult for you: you have to argue that it is mostly true or mostly not true! You are not allowed to sit on the fence and say "It depends!"
First of all, what a very interesting statement. Friendship can end in love? Yes. As a matter of fact, i experienced such thing but i don’t think i’d like to break down the details of what or how i experienced such example. I may not be able to guarantee this, but i can say that love that started off as good friends is very much filled with content. You will not find the hardship of ‘getting to know your partner’ phase as you have passed through that phase when you were still building your pondation as friends with your partner. In conclusion, pondation of friendship is very very benefical, not only for your love life but also for the sake of having good relations with people. As for the second statement, Love in friendship? Yes too. As i have stated before, anything with a pondation of friendship will always be beneficial. Break up maybe tough at first, buti it’s just about time. You may need some time after having a break up and so does your partner that used to be your friend before he or she became your lover but eventually things will get better as i believe real friend sticks.
ReplyDeleteReading the sentence makes me think so hard. I would absolutely say it depends if I am allowed to. However, following Mr. Adrian’s rule, I would say it is mostly true in most cases in my life. For the first statement of the sentence which is “Friendship can end in love”, I think it is true, because getting to know our friend in depth can result in love. I believe to be able to love someone we have to get to know each other first. I believe that the step of building friendship in having relationship cannot be skipped. For the second statement which is “but love in friendship, never”, I think we have to define friendship first. I believe that not all of our friends can be included in the term friendship. Some of them are probably just someone that we know, someone that we don’t actually care about. Being in a friendship means that we care for each other through ups and downs in each other’s life. When we have a true friendship, the love in that friendship won’t last. I have a group of friends that I consider them as my true friends, even though now we are not in the same campus, and couldn’t hang out as often as usual. We are still in contact and share our story.
ReplyDeleteI have experience love in friendship and surely it is not something that i would like to repeat it again. I have experience it and memorize every detail of it. The reason why i would not like to repeat finding love in friendship is that the result of when who knows that the relationship is not working and resulting to end our relationship. This resulted of not only losing someone that you love but also losing someone that used to be one of your friend or even best friends. Eventhough, there are many advantages of love in friendship there are also many disadvantages. It doesn't only resulting to the awkward moments of you between you're ex but also it will destroy the environment of you between her friends. This problem is particularly when you have a group of friendships that you find love in of them. It will affect to having awkward moments and even losing all of your friends in one group.
ReplyDeleteIs this experience recent? You're so detail!
DeleteI agree wholeheartedly on the first part of the saying. Friendship can indeed end in love and during my time in high school most of the people that ended up in a romantic relationship with their significant other actually started by being best friends. They would hang out together, study together, and just basically do anything that they can do together, together. But I've also seen the latter part of the saying come true as well. When my friend had a break-up after about a year of dating he was bummed out about it, he would often hang out with people he doesn't usually hang out with to find someone to talk to that understands what he's going through, but after about a month of sulking and being depressed he started talking to his ex a lot and eventually they made up their friendship and his ex even helped him get together with her best friend.
ReplyDeleteThis saying struck me as something that’s pretty accurate according to my past experience. I think it is obvious a friendship can end in love. When you spend time a lot of time with one of your friend, you’ll get to know them better, and when you can get a sense of them as a person, you can develop the feeling into something more beautiful: love. I personally think being friends before you start a serious relationship is a good method, since you can know what to expect, because that’s how I did it with me current significant other. Regarding the second line, I don’t think it’s right to say a past love relationship can’t end in friendship because both parties may learn to forgive each other mistakes and be normal again, but I do think it’s impossible to be the type of friends that spent a lot of time together; that is if they don’t intend in getting back together.
ReplyDeleteYes! I am so agree with you Ricky, i think it is very irrational to be fallen in love with someone without knowing his/her personalities. Because at the end of the day, it is not appeareance that will make you stuck in love with someone, but their quality as a person. Looks can be “expired” as the time goes by, but the personalities are different; it is something that can you love for ever. For example: love for your parents, whether we shy to admit it or not, there is one point in life that we can choose to love our parents just the way they are; and if we can do that, we will be full with love and willing to give anything from them. Yes i know, the case to love our parents with our partner are something that not exactly the same, but it is similiar of the way you act to someone you love; you are willing to sacrifice anything you have to that certain person.
Deletethank you nic!
DeleteI would have to say that a relationship that starts with a friendship can certainly end in love. From my point of view when two people meet they start of as an acquaintance, but communication between the two will start to begin when a common interest is available between the two. From this step usually a friendship is made and things evolve from there. For a friendship to end in love requires a long and consistent process. What I mean by this is that a simple friendship won't end up in love. They would need to consistently spend time with each other as in an everyday basis. For a friendship to end in a love relationship to happen, I think that both parties need to find the time to find out about each other. Because it maybe confusing in the sense that one party wants to be friends and the other one wants to be more than friends.
ReplyDeleteFriendship and love. The dilemma as old as time itself. And then to complicate things further, what's the contradistinction between the two? Doesn't one blend into the other seamlessly? Friendship involves love and love requires association too.
ReplyDeleteI'll assume you're speaking of friendship versus romantic love. In my opinion, it's of no use to compare the two. But ah well.
We will keep the distinction at the level that friendship does not involve physical attraction while love does.
Somebody really awesome told me the other day that friendship is purer than romance because of this very reason. And I agree to a large extent.
Family bears with you because you're their blood. Friends have no reason to be friends as long as they don't have ulterior motives. They're just there for you. It's weird. You choose, and gel with these people and they become yours.
The problem with love (instead, the involvement of physical attraction) is that it clouds up the other things and creates complications. It overrides other emotions at times and causes you not to be able to see what you would have otherwise. You can't see the magic in people with this at times.
A guy interested in a girl may stay up talking with her the whole night, maybe not in the hope for something physical but it'd come into his head sometimes. If I stay up with my best friend talking the whole night, I don't have anything tangible that I want in return.
I like your first part of comment Daiva, what is the main contradiction between friendship and love, sometimes we are still confused to distinguish those two very different things and you explained it so well. I just want to add a point: in love, not like friendship, there is a thing called commitment. If you are falling in love with someone, you want to have a commitment with him/her, whether you hurt each other or some storms of relationship hit both of you very hard, and a commitment between two partners that can overcome all of those what i called as true love. I think, every commitment with your partner will be tested in your relationship, and the one that is really destined to be with you is the one that can hold that commitment until the end. So, at the end of the day, be careful to someone you choose as your life partner, you must make sure it is someone that can really commit to be with you how bad or worst thunder of testament hit you and your partner.
DeleteWell it is actually quite true though. I have experiennced both, Friendship end with love, and love in friendship. It is almost the same actually. I had once have a friend, a girl friend, not a girlfriend, a girl friend means that i have a friend who is a girl. I am bery close to her. But, i also had another girl friend, who was also very close to me, even closer than the other friend. Just call the girl who was more closer to me girl 1, and the other is girl 2. I was very close with girl 1. I often went to see movie, or eat, or do many things with her. Then,i started to fall in love with her. But, butter thing hapoened to my life. When i expressed my love to her, she said that she assumed that we were only friend. Well that was hurt. But, this girl 2, always there for me when i was sad, and always made me happy. Then, i started to fall in love to this girl. But not suddenly fell in love to her, it was like 7 months after the girl 1 rejected my statement. Both of us had a sign that we were liking each other. So, finally we fell in love together. So, from this story, the story with girl 1 is love in friendship, and the story with girl 2 is friendship end with love. They are slightly the same, but if we get the true meaning, they are different.
ReplyDeleteI agree with this statement, and I say it’s mostly true. A friendship that lasts long enough would develop into a form of love; it entirely depends on the definition of love and what it means to different people, as stated in my comment on an earlier blog post. It’s easy to imagine a friendship evolving into a close relationship, and eventually into love. It’s much harder to imagine love turning into friendship, because love never ends well. You can argue that love interpreted by fictional stories, that end with love and happily ever after, is an example of love ending well. However in my opinion, for love to avoid unhappy endings is for love to never end in the first place. Love that ends always ends because of a horrible tragedy like break-ups or even death, however death can be questionable because many argue that love surpasses even death. Anyways, it’s hard for anyone to come together after their love ends in break-up. Some can argue that two people can continue to become friends even after their status of “being in a relationship” is over, however I don’t think this is possible; I once saw or read that if two people are still together after their relationship has ended, it means that their still in love or never in the first place. This means that even if they declare themselves as couples, their treatment of each other is still that of a platonic friendship. So in conclusion, I think this statement tells the truth, as the majority of cases provide it with plenty of evidence.
ReplyDeleteFriendship that end up in love? I would say it’s true. I’ve had that sort of experience before, although I did broke up with her. I wouldn’t go into much details about how and why it happened, but I can say that love which bloomed from friendship is beautiful. And that’s why if you are interested in that special someone, the first thing you should aim is to become friends with them. From that point, you could see not only the things that make you fall for him or her, but also all the bad things about them. As for the second statement, I would say it’s true to a certain extent. I’m not saying that it’s hard to go back being friends, as there are many be obstacles before you and your ex can go back to being friends. But once you got past all that stuff, it is quite possible. As long as both parties have the will to work it out, I’m pretty sure it will turn out just fine.
ReplyDelete“Friendship can end in love”, I would say that this is mostly true; Two good friends can fall in love with each other and it is a good thing because they already know each other, they know not only the qualities but also the defaults of the other.
ReplyDeleteConcerning the other half of the statement, “but love in friendship, never!”, I would tend to say it depends, but as we have to choose, I will go for it is mostly true as well. I think that a romantic relationship can end in friendship but if two people were really in love then something very bad must have happened for them to break-up. Then, I think that once the two people that really loved each other broke up, they, most of the time, can’t become good friends. They can still be in good term but it would be difficult for them to hang out together a lot.
This is a very interesting statement. After I read it, I immediately remembered to when I was in high school. I have experienced the statement “friendship can end in love”. I have a friend, and we were in the same group. And eventually, we had feelings to a friend in the same group. Note, we were interested in different persons. But this time, I prefer to tell my friend’s experience. They were really close, and they even sometimes hang out without asking the others to join. But after their relationship ended, it made some uncomfortable environment in our friendship. This is why personally, I wouldn’t recommend a love relationship in one group. Regarding the second statement, it is also possible that love ends but continuing friendship. Talking about the same friend, after they broke up, it took a while to get up, but eventually they become good friends again. So in conclusion, I believe that both statement are likely to happen.
ReplyDeleteFirst of all love and friendship is relationship, which requires time, effort and many other characteristics, which form mutual relationship. Both, love and friendship assume emotional involvement, care, respect and devotion. Both feelings undergo transformations with the flow of time and go through different stages. You can have several friends but situations of being in loving relationships with several people are very rare and are regarded rather like deviation, than something normal. This is one of the differences between love and friendship. Another incontestable difference between love and friendship is sexual attraction. Friendship usually does not assume any sexual attraction at all and most forms of love (in the context of relationship between people who are in love) include sexual attraction. Love can be reciprocal or not, and in this field it’s expressed more like an attitude. It’s hard to imagine reciprocal friendship. It either exists or not. Friendship is rather a relationship, which emerges on the joint of several spheres like emotional, mental, and physical aspects.
ReplyDeleteLike we could make sure, it’s hard to explain the notion of love or friendship. It becomes even harder, when we start talking about the true love. There is no one distinct definition of true love. It’s a subjective feeling and means different things for different people. Like any feeling or attitude, it has an empirical nature and can be rather felt than explained. It’s a common known fact that words contain only shape of the thought or sense we put in them and giving explanation of true love and trying to put it into words we lose the main thing – empirical feeling. Being a feeling, true love can have different means of realisation and possess different forms. For one person true love can be a complete involvement in the relationship and sharing every moment of life together. For another person true love can mean a complete freedom. And both will be right as true love can have so many manifestations that it makes it merely impossible to put it in rigid limits or some definite forms. To my mind, there is one thing, which distinguishes any healthy, positive relationship, whether it’s love or friendship. It’s a kind of relationship or feeling, which makes you happier, brings new positive emotions and feelings even in the periods of conflicts and misunderstandings, which are inevitable part of any relationship.
DeleteThe first sentence which saying, “Friendship can end in love” got me silenced for awhile. The idea of love itself scares me. I do not really know what love actually is. Love is a blurry thing for me other than human’s feelings toward other things or people. The idea of friendship also scares me. We all need genuine friends who are actually willing to be friends with us. But, if I could quote from another source, “I think the scariest thing in this world is you never know someone’s true intentions with you.” Don’t get me wrong, I love meeting new people and making new friends! But, I don’t think all friendship could work smoothly if the two or more people within the ‘friendship’ did not see the idea of friendship equally with others in the context of different-gender kind of friendship. But, I am lucky to have guy best friend who has the same perspective on how we see ‘friendship’.
ReplyDeleteAlthough I said that friendship is a blurry thing for me. I also have an opinion on ‘friendship’ itself from my point of view. I see friendship as a bonding between one to another. Friendship is a mixture of affection, tolerance, and understanding. Some people see it as an advantage, but other people see that as a disadvantage. Because, love in friendship is all about the ambiguity, I might say. The idea of love and friendship is mixed into one form and not all of us could understand the situation. There is a saying, “We could close our eyes to the things we don’t want to see. But, we couldn’t close our heart to the things we don’t want to feel.” So does love. I think, it is inevitable for us to feel that way. Moreover, our friends are the close-people around us. They are the people we get to see frequently!
DeleteSo, indeed, friendship can end in love. Either because they are consciously feel so, or they also could feel that unconsciously. But, I hope both of the people In the friendship feel the same. If they were not feel the same, it would cause some problems on their relationship as a friend. Refer to the second sentence which saying, “but love in friendship, never!” Altough there are people who could bury their feelings toward their friend and maintain their relationship to the one they love. Some people could not do the same. In fact, they will end up all the same. I agree that love couldn’t work in friendship as we expected it to be. There is a difference or at least a slightly one between one to another as they feel different from each other. I think, good communication is really needed here as they need to maintain their healthy relationship.
DeleteI suppose for the majority of us there is no going back to friendship after love. I don’t know why but the concept of back to being friend after a romantic relationship just seems odd for our society. I suppose in the concept of dating now, a romantic relationship is only terminated normally after a huge problem occurs; making the person involved in it believe that they hate each other, while it is not necessarily true. Another typical reason on why a couple would split up is betrayal, usually in the form of an affair. This made a logical reason on why people typically does not back to being friends after they part ways. But, I suppose there are anomalies to this concept, when people are still being friends with each other even after they split up. And usually the people who are back to be friends after they split up split up peacefully based on each other consent.
ReplyDeleteI personally think that the quotation has is mostly true. We all know that the feeling of love is present when we think that someone is somehow more special than others. the first phrase says " Friendship can end in love", which I totally agree. There are lots of cases where the couple started from being friends, and one of them then develop feelings, which results to a more serious relationship. In theory, a person can develop seeing just because of how they frequently meet. Friendship provides opportunity to meet, therefore if the 2 people are frequently meeting each other, either one can develop the feeling of love. However, I do not really agree with the second phrase, "but love in friendship, never!" because there is a possibility of them being good friends again. I saw many of my friends broke up and are still being friends until now. I personally experienced this case, and if we do end it in a good way due to it becoming a mutual decision, we can still go out as friends.
ReplyDeleteI fully agree that love exists because of friendship. From a friendship, we will get to know our partner more deeply. Friendship is the first gate of love, from friendship we will know about our partners. The experience we get from friendships is a wonderful memory when we and our partners have expressed love for each other. However, I experienced that love originated from a friendship and I strongly agreed about this. "Love in friendship, never!" , from the second statement I strongly agree. Friendship and Love are two different entities. In my opinion, because of this difference, love and friendship cannot occur simultaneously. When both occur simultaneously, one will disappear. Whatever it is when love has been declared, friendship will change into a love relationship because when love ends friendship continue and vice versa. So be careful with love and friendship because I experience that love can damage friendship if you make them happen together.
ReplyDeleteAh, the one that has exactly the same perspective as mine. I wonder why would this happened, is it because we oftenly exchange what is in our minds Raja? Those experience of yours, is that what i think it is? Jokes aside, the one thing to be an adult is to ready to be hurt by other people and not just ready for that but also prepared to forgive someone who hurt you. Ready and to be careful to be hurt is one thing but prepared to forgive someone is another level. It needs something what i called as sacrifice which we discussed in another day Raja. The way of sacrifice is not something that can be easily taken by someone, but let me tell you, it is worth it. The feeling to sacrifice something to another person is so good, i can not explain exactly how it feels, but please, try it yourself. The feeling of making another people happy with an act that you do intentionally which resulting in they not realizing even a bit of what you did, it is unique feeling of being ‘more adult’. I think we need to hang out and discuss it again Raja.
DeleteI would agree with the infamous term of friendship will end in love. It sucks, we all know that. Why would I say that it sucks? Because we can’t predict about what will happen in the future, in this case is when we were just getting to know someone new. I believe that it is fate, who we got the chance to become friends with. So, I would say that of all people we became friend with, there must be a reason why we ended up becoming friend with them. Sometimes to make us happy, to hurt us, to strengthen us, or maybe to become our soul mate in life. Friendship is one of the ways for human to find his or her significant other. We can see this problem as in negative or positive point of view. A positive view is that I believe the bond will get stronger through the relationship. Because one another has already know the deep-dark-side of them. But, the negative side is always there, that the ending of the story would just be broken the friendship bond that has been built. It sucks.
ReplyDeleteI have experienced this kind of issue actually. I would say it sucked, because I guess until now the problem is not yet fixed. It remains unclear. For me, something that remains unclear is just making me uncomfortable since it could just go into my mind whenever it wants. It gets more annoying when the “love” only comes from one side. It wasn’t mine, because we basically shared everything just like friends do, so, I didn’t really expect that it would mean something else to him. His intention didn’t delivered into me by myself, until one of my friend told me, and he knew that I know. Our conversation since then just ended abruptly, he was the one who stopped our relationship. I still have this guilty-but-not-really feeling of not discussing about this until now, of making this remains unclear. I definitely didn’t want to end our friendship, it’s like, we’ve connected in some sort of way, and then it just ends. Well, that’s just one story about a friendship that ends with love, but poorly. So, I’m actually not a pro for this way of getting our significant other through friendship, because it would be a shame if it ended up just like my story.
DeleteIt is very true; because in my opinion, falling in love is not something that just happened but a choice to be happened. I am very disagree with someone who says that falling in love just something that occured in a way that it can not be explained. In reality, i think it is very easy to be explained; it is your own choice whether you conscious or not about it. Most likely you are going to be fallen in love with someone close to you (friend); you can choose person that can be close to you; and that means that it is your choice to be falling in love with someone or not. It is rather confusing but believe me, if you are falling in love without even a single reason or just say, other people than you said that, i think it is just because of his/her laziness to find out about the reason or it is just “cinta monyet” or temporary love based on shallow level of love. I am not being harsh or something but hey it is just my opinion, sorry if someone being offended by this comment, thank you!
ReplyDeleteAlthough I am still in my first semester in my college life I happened to have relatively a lot of experience which involve feelings, especially love. In case of friends can become lover is apparently a true thing that can happen to anyone at anytime. Several of my love life stories are coming from my circle of friends and became a lover, one of the case is my current relationship where me and my girlfriend initially a friend since our 2nd year in high school. Me and my girlfriend actually feels the same way from that moment we encountered each other on the same event in our school, because both of us love basketball then it all just started from there. I pretty much don’t want to lose her not because I am scared of being lonely, merely because she is the reason I believe in love again since a series of unfortunate things happened to me in the past. In my freshman year at high school my parents divorced and when I met her at the 2nd year she told me that everything is going to be alright that there is a thing called love in this world. Now I know her more than I know myself, because I cared for her in my silence although we were not directly became lover we still care for each other. Maybe it is a common thing where we don’t want to lose our love one, she was there accompanying me through my hard times and god, I miss that. We are 500 kilometers apart now, I miss the old us. I don’t want to lose her because she was, is, and always will be my best friend, although it is less likely to happen yet i can hope it remains the same. Why I said it is less likely to happen, not impossible but from my past experience once a friend becomes a lover, it is hard to turn it the other way around to remain friends after the heartbreaking processes. Yet it is possible for the good and strong hearts, if a lover love each other no matter what, status wont be a barrier for their affection for each other. Like my mom and dad after they divorced ;).
ReplyDeleteTalking about why friends can become lover, good friend knows each other so well every good and every bad. Every happy and every sad. Everywhere and everyday. They will be there for each other, feelings such as love can develop through hard times and understanding of each other. Friend can become lover because good friends will make us feel that we are strong and complete.
The quote "Friendship can end in love, but love in friendship, never!" is mostly true. Personally, I have never experienced a situation that fits this quote but I would agree anyway. Friendship can end in love because people trust their best friends. They share everything with their best friend. Maybe because of the deep connection people have with their best friend, they started to want their own best friend to become their girlfriend/boyfriend. However, a situation where love ends and continue to become friends or even best friends is rare. Because first, when we break up from someone, of course we want to move on. And by doing so, we erase any connection that links to our previous partner. Second, if for instance we have moved on and we already have another partner and we still maintain a good relationship with our ex, sometimes our partner gets jealous. Third, according to my observation, people are reluctant to maintain a good relationship with their ex because here in Indonesia, previous partners or ex girlfriend/boyfriend are considered as bad person hence it is impossible for some people to connect again with their ex let alone be good friends with them.
ReplyDeleteLove and friendship is a sensitive topic and has different meaning on everyone. However, in my life, I have watched so many people that has strong friendship and eventually in love with each other. This is a common thing that happened in a lot of people. For myself, I haven’t experience this kind of experience, but I got curious sometimes and pop a lot of questions in my head. Does friendship that ends up with love will turned out to be awkward? If the love ends up in the end, will they be not friends anymore? Those kind of questions is what I am curious about. In my opinion, it is okay for friendship to ends up with love, probably because, when you ends up in love with your bestfriend, you don’t want to hurt your partner because he/she is your bestfriend right? And also, probably it is easier for friends that become partner because they have understand each other well and knows each other well.
ReplyDeleteWith the saying “Friendship Can End In Love”, I have to say I agree. I have witnessed multiple friends of mine end up being in a relationship after being really good friends with each other for years. I have witnessed some that works out just fine but I also have witnessed some that just didn’t work out because they were better off as friends but not more. With the saying “But With Love in Friendship, Never!” I think it depends on the situation itself. It could be a good thing if the feeling is mutual but when it is one sided, I do think it has the potential to ruin the friendship if the other person couldn’t bear knowing that their best friend has feelings for them. Turning something platonic into something that is romantic tends to either lead to a beautiful thing or a complete disaster. I have seen a couple of my friends trying so hard to become more than friends but it never worked out.
ReplyDeleteFor me, I've seen a lot of cases where friendship ends in love. Even with people really close to me. However, I can never let that happen to me. For me, friendships that end in love doesn't always just end there. It could result in ruining the relationship with that person altogether. I have seen a lot of cases where it would just end badly. If I value that person enough to let that person in my life and get into my inner circle, I wouldn't want to ever risk the relationship I have with that person. Having that person as something constant in my life for a long time is so much more than risking the relationship altogether just to try and experience something more that would most likely only last for a while. I have nothing against people who starts their romantic relationship by being friends first. However, I just don’t think I will ever let that happen to me.
ReplyDeleteI see where you’re going, and I definitely agree with you. As you said “If I value that person enough to let that person in my life and get into my inner circle”, I agree with that. But i wonder why you think that it would risk the relationship with that person? You’ll just continue to get closer to them to the point where you love them. If your relationship is actually good between the two of you, there shouldn’t any risk at all, it would go so well actually. Well, when I think about it again, not all relationships are perfect, but that’s what makes it perfect. If your not willing to take a risk, you’ll never be successful. Well what your saying, from what i understand, does go with the old saying: “Friendship can end in Love, but Love in Friendship, never.” where it is possible for you to fall in love, but you won't risk losing that love or friendship afterwards.
DeleteI personally believe that it is mostly true that friendship can end in love while love cannot end in friendship because I have experienced the former myself while I have never experienced the latter at all throughout my entire life. I personally feel annoyed when it happens because I like to make wonderful friendships instead of agonizing about my feelings from her because of my stupid heart. Not saying that I hate love, I mean it’s amazing and all when I have feelings for someone and that someone is close to me but it just gets tiring when my feelings get carried away and I want more from our relationship like wanting to always spend time together every day and chat every day, etc. Sometimes, it’s smarter to just follow your brain because it’s your brain duuuhh. I wish there was a way for love to just end up in friendship so that I don’t have to think too much about things. P.S. I don’t have feelings for anyone at the moment.
ReplyDeleteI strongly agree on the opinion about friendship can end up in love. Back then in my highschool era, a lot of my friends became couples, from just being a friend. It started when they were just being classmates, and then being a chairmate, and now, a loving couple. In my opinion, love in friendship can be occured when both of them shared their each interests, and they felt like they’re just the same as their couple. I myself experienced that, and that relationship is still going pretty well. I actually was my girlfriend’s bestfriend, for almost one year. I accompanied her through her tough days and also, she was always there for me. That ‘bestfriend’ relationship ended up into us, caring and loving each other. So probably, even though you’re just a friend to someone, as time flies by, they could be your love in the future. Second statement, in my opinion is partly true. I’ve experienced that before, and it was exactly the same as the statement said, but the reality is, you just need some time, well in some case a long time, to adjust your feeling to your ex, and everything will be back normal again.
ReplyDeleteI personally think that both of the phrases are true. The phrase “friendship can end in love” happened to me before and I find it fantastic. I found this phrase happen to lots of my friends too. I personally think that love that starts from a friendship could make the relationship more fun since, we knew about each other more and get comfortable with each other faster, compared to couple who just knew each other. I also agree with the second phrase since, it rarely happen that exes contact each other as if they are friends. I don’t know if it’s just us but back in high school, my friends and I rarely contacted our exes due to us being worried that we might disturb them. There goes a saying “bros before hoes” which is very important in a friendship. Lots of friendships are destroyed due to them not having time to hangout with friends who supported them back then. So, you should be careful as it is not impossible that your friendship is destroyed by love.
ReplyDeleteThis is a very true statement based on my own personal experience. As my current significant other was a really good friend of mine from 3rd grade of elementary school. As we were friends, we regularly play with each other and it's not uncommon for us to talk about our significant others at the time. There truly was no love in the friendship where I didn’t mind at all on her talking about her relations and feelings with other people, and vice versa she didn’t mind me talking about my feelings about other people. However as we can see right now, friendship can end in love. The main factor I guess is that we were both sick of people who couldn’t understand our feelings and being hurt over and over. So as we were both single at the time of 8th grade junior high school, we decided to give it a shot. Now 5 years 9 months and 4 days later here we are, stronger than ever.
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ReplyDeleteI shall say that this matter is simply something you can’t objectively judge unless you’ve had a firsthand experience. It’s often effortless for people to fall in love after spending some time together as friends and I think it’s the best kind of relationship. As to why, it’s because you’ve spent so much time with each other that all their positive and negative sides are apparent, you can see beyond the façade they display in public, so there’s nothing to hide. When your partner is your best friend, they know you for who you truly are and accepts you just the way you are. Although in so many cases and for so many reasons, these relationships just didn’t work out. I won’t say this from what the majority says, instead it will be from my personal experience as well as observations of my surroundings, it is possible for ex-lovers to turn into friends, in most cases it goes with this plot : friends – lovers – friends. In my opinion this will be possible if you have an unconditional love for that person. No matter what, whether you became lovers or stay as friends again in the end, they’ll still own a special spot in your heart. Although yes, it requires a great deal of time and effort to sort the lingering feelings out, it is still possible after all.
I believe that it is true. Psychologically, if two people with opposite gender are in friends for a long period of time, one of them will absolutely fall in love. Mostly, time will give them more possibility to have a relationship greater than just a friendship. But, keep this word in mind, time. By acquiring a long time of friendship, a very close friendship not just a common friendship, both of them will find a comfort zone where both of them can understand and even accept each other bad and good and ups and downs. Unlike a new couple, most of the time, one of them finds a habit or a behavior which is very unexpected. If they come to this phase, most of the couples will not survive in their relationship. That fact is on the contrary of a love in a friendship. That is why, time is the absolute reason why this kind of a love appears.
ReplyDeleteI agree with the first saying “friendship can end in love”. Because love in friendship is a common thing and is really relatable to me since my parents started it off as friends before “love is in the air”. Another reason on why it’s relatable is because I myself, have had so many guy friends in my 18 years of living. And I’ve learned that when it comes down to it, there are only 5 scenarios: both fell in love but it didn’t work out so here comes the frigid gazes and you went on separate ways; both fell in love and everything’s working fine; both fell in love, didn’t work out, but you managed to get back to each other and just came to terms that you are more comfortable this way; one-sided-love and the result depends on whether or not this person confess their love; everything’s going smoothly, both only play their role as friends and expect nothing more.
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion, the last scenario is rather impossible. Because for the most part, in opposite-sex friendship, you could say it's nearly impossible to have a platonic innocent friendship and not fall in love with each other; at least one will. I’m not saying that it’s taboo in a sense that we are banned to fall in love with our own best friend. Instead what I’m trying to say is that falling in love with your own best friend is a common thing and it comes naturally for we tend to spend most of our time with them and they’re just there almost 24/7. True there are countless ways to set up safe and respectful boundaries but sometimes your mind becomes irrational that it’s hard to be civil and thoughtful when all you want is to be with them. This is why I think sometimes we need to take space for ourselves and stay away from all the tension for awhile.
DeleteHowever on the other hand, I strongly disagree for the “love in friendship, never!” because from my personal experience, not even one ended badly. Though I admit it takes time to get used to the fact that we broke up, but not to the point where we’re not on speaking terms. I don’t really get why people even do that in the first place. I know they have the rights to do whatsoever and it’s their business anyway not mine, but it’s really immature when two just stopped talking as soon as they break up. Because again, taking from my personal experience, I’ve been in the worst scenario you could ever think of, but I never really stopped talking to him. In conclusion, people do break up for a reason, but it cannot be an excuse for them to forget all the right things their ex did and stick to the one fault that may or may not cause an end to their relationship.
DeleteIn my past, I have experienced love in a friendship. I've felt this in a non-romantic way. Besides, love doesn't always have to mean the feeling of a boy and a girl, right? What I meant by finding love in a friendship is what I have in highschool between me and my group of friends. In the first semester we didn't know each other at all, we all came from different places, backgrounds and stories but somehow we found our way to each other. As time passes by, we've grown a love towards each other, well it wasn't an easy road considering the numerous times we fought and hurt each other. But one thing that I think we all could agree on is the endless love and support we have towards each other. With all that roller coaster we've been through, we've create an unbreakable bond that'll stay with us forever.
ReplyDeletePersonally, I don’t think that friendship can end up in love. To me, friendship is really important and I valuate my relationship with my closest friends. If a person turns friendship into love, he or she betrayed the meaning of friendship and did not appreciate the relationship that they are having. I do believe that if a person put an interest into someone, they knew it from the start and their approach would have been different with the others. Therefore, friendship and romantic relationships have a huge difference. Even though, some of my friends did experience such situation where they are falling in love with their best friends, in some cases, a person may act differently when they turn a friend into a lover. This may threaten their relationship as they are more comfortable to remain as friends. Hence, friendship and romatic relationship have two distinct approaches. You may act like best friends in your relationship but do not take your friendship for granted.
ReplyDeleteIt is mostly true that friendship can end in love. I agree with the statement that “friendship can end in love”. I have experienced it once. It happened when I was in junior high school. I have a friend (let’s say) his name is Robert. Me and robert are a good friend. I told robert about everything. It’s like he is the top three person who will know about something first. We know each other very well and we always support each other. One day, he told me that he loves me. I was surprised and sad at the same time. Because I didn’t have the same feeling and I know that this will ruin our friendship. Our friendship were never be the same anymore ever since. But as the time goes by, he understands and accepts it eventually. We finally accept it and we are now still best friend.
ReplyDeleteThis is an interesting topic to talk about. First of all, I think that friendships can potentially end in love in certain consequences. Some of my friends have tried attempting the impossible in trying to get their girl friends to fall in love with them. Unfortunately, in the literal term ‘girl friend’, there is a notorious space between the two words known in the world of teenagers as the ‘friendzone’. Although the occurrence of becoming partners after friendship is rare, it is not unheard of. Some of my friends have tried and succeeded in doing it. Regarding the second point the article makes, I think that it is similar to the first point; it is very unlikely, yet is not entirely impossible. For example, me and my ex-girlfriend broke up a few months ago on good terms. Now, we are still keeping touch and we are developing a friendship after the relationship ended. Needless to say, anything is possible if we have the power of chance on our side.
ReplyDeleteEver since high school, I’ve always liked this one girl. And it’s been going on for a year, we’ve always met. Every day I can see her and my feelings just get deeper for me and finally at the end of year 11, I asked her out. It’s not likely for me to think that I will get accepted that easily. And in fact, I did get rejected, I wasn’t shocked at all, it’s her choice. But she said that we could be friends, which at that time I would 100% accept it. I don’t want us to be awkward on our last whole year in school. So, our last year, year 12, began. I was so shy that I can’t even look at her because I still have feelings for her. But every day, things would go wrong. First, I felt that she was keeping a distance from me but as time goes on, she would just ignore me like I wasn’t there. Her friends even did that to me as well. Every day when we met, she would just give me those annoyed face. One day I tried apologizing to her and she denied it. When I saw her at an event in school, I greeted her, and she gave me those annoyed looks again on her face. So, I gave up… times passed and I would just ignore her. I got tired with the way she me treated like that, and those sentence of “can we just be friends”, it’s a nonsense for me.
ReplyDeleteFriendship can certainly end in love. In this case, it is truly important to distinguish between a friend and an acquaintance. Spending time with your friend is one way of getting to know each other. For me, my friendship relationship is more likely to last when we have many things in common with each other. Spending a lot of significant moments with your friend can lead to feelings of caring. When you try to get to know them, it is very possible that you find aspects of their personality that you really like. Many great loves are derived from friendship because in most cases, trust is already established during friendship. When feelings come into play, this is when friendship may lead to love. If this feeling is mutual, it will be beneficial for both parties as they gladly take their relationship to the next level. If this feeling is not mutual, then it will usually leave one party hurt and the other confused. If the friendship is strong enough, it is possible to become friends again. However, in most cases these situations only lead to awkwardness.
ReplyDeleteI have never thought of this before as i don’t like thinking about random things in my spare time. I would rather hangout with my friends rather than thinking about these things. But after reading the article i agree with both of the statements. I say so because i havee experienced this before. Based on my experience love in friendship will have a negative outcome. Maybe the relationship will workout for a while but after sometime it will just fail. Love is something that cannot be forced upon. It is something natural and you might be surprised with who you are attracted with. This statement is related with the artcile’s first statement which stated that Friendship can end in Love. I agree with this as lots of my friends experienced this. I have seen this several times and friendship can end in love. I say so as at the beggining you might say that i want to keep a boundary between myself and my girl – friend but as time goes on you spend more time together. By being friends you start hanging out together, do the same activities together, have lunch together and have fun together. You might actually get carried by the situation and start falling in love with your girl – friend.
ReplyDelete“Friendship can end in love, but love in friendship never”. Well, I’m completely agree with the first sentence. Friendship does indeed can end in love. I read some of the comments above and I saw a lot of people wrote that they might have experienced this kind of thing before. I also happened to have the similar experience. I personally found that it’s easier to fall in love with your friend ( or bestfriend) since you spent a lot of time together. In friendship, when you finally can understand each other and feel affectionate towards each other, that is when love finally grows in your friendship. However, I do not agree with the second sentence which is “Love in friendship never”. I read a lot of psychology fun facts on the internet said that you can not unlove someone once you fell in love with them. I personally think it’s true. I think love can end in a friendship if you maintain the good communication / relation with your past lover.
ReplyDeleteI partly disagree to the statement above that stated “Friendship can end in love, but love in friendship, never!”. I think the issue is rather a matter of one’s perspective and attitude toward the problem. There are some people who find happiness in love and friendship while the others regret the choice they made of finding love in friendship. Yet, I am personally in agreement of finding love in friendship because of at least two major reasons. First, you already know the other person well enough to begin a romantic relationship with. This would certainly speed up the ‘get to know’ phase of the relationship. Second, you and your significant other must already suit each other in many terms. You can easily laugh to each other’s jokes and you are able to be your best self around them. But, there are some significant disadvantage of finding love in friendship: when you lose it, you lost both your love and best friend.
ReplyDeleteIf I have to say, both of that sentence is very interesting yet at the same time it is very frightening, especially the first one. Let’s look at the first part of the sentence, “Friendship can end in love.” It’s important to emphasize that in the phrase itself, the word “end in” does not mean “finish” but more of “leads to” kind of thing. Meaning that from a certain friendship between a man and a woman could brought upon a feeling of love from one of them, either from the man or from the woman. This certain event could happen if one of the persons share a lot of their private life to the other person and the other person think that they are kind of special. But in reality, the reason why he or she share a story of their private life or problems is because they trust the opposite person as someone dear to them and as someone who can be count on, not as someone who he or she loves. Or another example of this upcoming is because one person, let’s say the man, care so much about the woman that he began to fell in love her. There are tons of examples that could trigger these events but the problematic thing that would come is that if the feeling of love came from one person who holds the other person dear while the other person itself already trust the first person like they are best buds, it could be seen as something of a betrayal for the other person and it could end their friendship.
ReplyDeleteNow let’s move on the second part of the sentence, “but love in friendship, never.” This sentence kind of slaps my first comment in the face. Jokes aside, the second part of the sentence itself is more of a question to the first part of the sentence rather than a normal sentence and in a sense, it establishes as a prove that a feeling of love which came from a friendship could lead an end to the friendship itself. But if I have to say, the second part of the sentence is pretty hard to explain. In the note, it is said that "love in friendship" means “love ending but continuing friendship.” It’s safe to say that if a feeling of love has ended between two persons, it could change into a new friendship between the two of them. But from my point of view, if the person who has a feeling of love for the other person could hold their feeling, their friendship wouldn’t end in a drastic way where one would feel betrayed and the other felt heartbroken.
DeleteIn the end, the feeling of love could start from a friendship between a man and woman and the outcome it produces has a lot of variety, starting from one feeling betrayed and the other felt heartbroken until it doesn’t really affect the two of them. While these sorts of things could happen in our daily life, we can’t really blame ourselves or our own heart for making this typical feeling called love. In my opinion, if we ever love someone, there has to be a reason as to why we like someone. Either because we care about them, we think that they have a good personality, or we just found that they are pretty attractive. If there is not, well let’s say that there is this sort of thing called “love at first sight” which I think is an exception in itself. All in all, this “crazy little thing called love” could come to every person in the world and it’s up to themselves, how would they raise it when the feeling has already blossomed.
DeleteBased on my personal experience, I have to agree with this statement. My past relationships never end in friendship. I don’t know if it’s my fault here, but it just never happened. Even that time I broke up with a guy on good terms; we never talk anymore or see each other, and basically just lost contact. And the other two relationships I had, ended on really bad terms. I did apologise to one of my exes and we cleared things out after a year of ignoring each other and literally pretending that the other doesn’t exist. But of course, it’s just not the same. There’s always this awkwardness going on that I feel is never going to go away, no matter how hard we try. I am in a relationship currently, and honestly I’m not sure how it’s going to end. If one day we break up and become friends, I know that it’s gonna be very odd and it’s never going to go back to the way it was.
ReplyDeleteAs for friendship leading up to love, I think it’s true. It’s always how it should be, in my opinion. We can’t really fall in love with someone before being friends with them and getting to know them better. If we are not friends with our significant other before dating them, I feel like it’s not going to work. I think it always starts from strangers, and then friends, and then partners. However, this case is for the people who are attracted to someone, and befriend them because they want to ask the other out. As for actual friends, who maybe have been friends for a long time and then turn into love, it’s also very possible. It happened to me once. We have been close friends for a while and ends up interested in each other after about two years of friendship. Although it does ended badly, we had a pretty big fight. After we broke up, we didn’t go back to the way we were and ended up like strangers. Like I said, I think love can never end in friendship.
Delete“Friendship can end in love, but love in friendship, never!”
ReplyDeleteThis is true when friendship can end in love, because people basic or first stage of relation is friend ship. This can happen because they use to meet each other everyday and both are feeling really comfortable when they are close to each other. This type of process usually takes more than a month because they both usually wants to know one another. While “love in friendship, never!”, because I’ve experienced this kind of situation in which it breaks friendship relation and we will feel awkward when we use to love our own friend. I believe that there must be love in every type of friendship. Love in a friendship usually gives more bad impact to the community which it can also break the relation of our gang or the group we use to go together. But the positive side in love in friendship is that we know the characteristic of the person we love.
I would say that this old saying is mostly true. People in friendship can always lead to a feeling called love; which is a feeling that is owning a person way more than just friend. And one thing that makes it so true is because when we in a friendship sometimes people get so comfortable, they build trust, getting to know the personality of the people, and most importantly getting along each other closer and closer again. By that situation, it can definitely create a burst of love feeling towards the person. Yet eventually we all know, that love might always have an end.
ReplyDeleteHowever, it is totally different when a person feels love in their friendship. This love doesn’t defines as it says on the previous paragraph, but this love means that they do really care about the person, they give attention and affection, but its just in terms of ‘friends’ and no more than that. So please keep in mind that these two love words are having a crucial different meaning, and that is what makes these two statements are true.
In my opinion, this saying is mostly not true. Based on my own experience, breaking up with your lover doesn't always mean that you can't be friend with them anymore. If you had a bad break up, you should just stop talking to them but don't ever hate them. If you stop meeting them, eventually the feelings will be gone and in the end you will be ready to be friend with them again. I know that it is not easy to forget all of the memories, but if you can't erase it, you should just keep that memories as a good old times. It may be hard, but lovers to friends is possible.
ReplyDeleteOne of my best friend is actually my ex-lover. We both grew up together back then and in the end we both felt like we were not meant to be but we also realise that we can't live without each other. At that time we stopped talking for about a year but when we met again, everything seems so natural. We are still best friend now.
This is an interesting comment to write because I do have some experience regarding to this topic. I believe that love can go back to a friendship with time and if the two persons are mature enough to leave the problems and bad memories behind. In my case, for example, my best friend became my boyfriend, but after many years together we figure it out that it was not working. At the beginning I have to accept that I did not want to be his friend anymore, and we lose contact. With time, I got over him and I didn’t hurt anymore when he was with other girls. I realize that he was a good friend but he just wasn’t the one for me. Now we are very good friends and we even call each other every time we need some advice. We know each other pretty well but we would never come back together because it won’t work again.
ReplyDeleteI really agree with the setence 'friendship can end in love' because I believe that most people have experienced this kind of feeling. I believe that to fall in love, people must know each other first, and to know each other they have to build friendship. I do not really believe love at first sight, because I can not imagine how to love someone without knowing their behaviour or their habbit. Because friendship means being comfortable with each other, listening, understanding, and so on, by the time, it is very possible for people to fall in love with someone that makes them feel the way they are. But however, loving someone does not mean that we will forever be compatible with them, to love someone, we still need to learn many things, and sometimes people find it difficult to do that, as a result there are many relationships that don't work. In the end, when people choose to give up in their relationship, they will loose someone as a lover and also as a friend.
ReplyDeleteWow! this article got so many attention and yes it is a very interesting article. i would say that it is not true that friendship can end in love and love can end in friendship, I don’t believe in such thing as love terms like this. For me, there are many kind of love and you cant just turn it to friendship easily. In friendship we tend to feel comfortable, trust each other, make jokes of him, even embracing him in public. It is clear that the differences between friend and boyfriend/girlfriend is that friend is a nonromantic person, so basically there are huge difference from boyfriend and boy friend. One I kiss, touch, hug, and hold, the other I do school work with and laugh at. They’re just different situations, but both are acceptable, and I wish more people saw that.
ReplyDeleteThis topic love and friendship is actually very interesting to talk about. From my point of view, I believe that both ‘friendship can end in love’ and ‘love in friendship’ can happen in various situations. Sometimes it might be hard to tell the difference between friendship and a different kind of love. When love starts in friendship there’s a likelihood of getting friendzone. Because from my own experience when you’re actually friends with the person it’ll be hard to differentiate whether he or she is actually interested in you or just being friendly. On the other hand love in friendship can also happen. I think that it’ll be harder to be friends with your ex considering everything that you’ve been through as a couple. But from my experience I think that it could definitely happen. I think that it’s easier to turn friendship into love rather than love into friendship. One thing to keep in mind is that never loose friendship because of confusing emotions.
ReplyDeleteI can agree with this statement because based on personal experience, Yes, friendship CAN end in love, as a matter of fact, you don't even need to be friends to fall in love with someone, love is universal. Back then I never really understood love, I never felt true love, heck even now I dont think I have ever felt true love. Love drives people crazy. It started as a friendship and as we go along, we tend to build emotions around eachother and we build trust and commitment. Trust and commitment are 2 important things in a relationship or love. We also have this mutual feelings and we understand eachother and usually it sparks love. However there are some friendship which does not end in love but it is bound to happen and it's very normal, because people change, our surroundings changes overtime. To conclude, if you happen to experience love in a friendship, never take it for granted because, it's not easy to find people who can be trusted and committed.
ReplyDeleteI don't really agree with this old saying because every relationship I've been in before always end with us continuing our friendship. I believe that my ex-lover contributed something positive to make me the way I am now even though we have bad-break up. They always have something to teach before, on, and after our relationship. They told me about them and the other way around. I believe that my ex-lover contributed something positive to make me the way I am now even though we have bad-break up. We still text and call for once a month at minimum just to ask how our life is going and is there any problem going on with each of us. For friendship to end in love, I tried it once, but it didn't work out well for me. But we still have good friendship and he became one of my closest friend that I trust with my personal problem. However, I still believe that friendship can end in love and love can also end in friendship.
ReplyDelete“Friendship can end in Love, but Love in Friendship, never.”. This saying is really interesting, it makes you think of your own relationship and how would you think it would end. Well I personally agree with this saying and I think a lot will, because of what experience I had and/or they might have as well. Love, without saying, will never end up in friendships, because it just can't. Once you're in a close relationship with someone, once you push yourself further, you’ll just keep on getting dragged away from it. I always imagine relationships like a fishing rod. When you caught a fish, basically you caught someone. And you’ll start to reel it closer and closer, from friendship, to lover, and then when you got the fish, then that's true love or true friend. But the process isn’t that fast, it takes a lot of time and effort.
ReplyDeleteDuring that process of pulling the fish in, a lot can happen, and that shows your relationship with that person. And no matter what the fish will only get closer and closer. If it goes further then youre a bad fisher. But if at one point you lose that fish, if at one point the rope broke, your relationship is broken, and the fish will never go back. I feel like a fishing is the best way to describe how relationships work. And it really goes with the saying given in the blog post. So I believe that friendship could keep building up until it ends with love, but once you’re in love, you’ll never go back to being friends again even if you say you will. Plus wouldn't it be awkward being friends with your ex. Well maybe other people have other thought on it. But this is mine.
DeleteWell, in my own opinion, it is one hundred percent true that friendship can end in love. Although I’ve never really experienced this kind of thing personally, but I think falling in love to our own best friend that we have already known his/her inside and outside is a good thing because we do not have to be worry about their personality anymore and also since we have known each other very well, we can understand him/her better so that if it becomes a serious relationship, it will long lasting. But the sad thing is, once the “love” relationship ends, the friendship will be over as well. The awkward feeling that we feel after breaking up with someone that we love moreover our own best friend can’t be avoided. That’s simply because we don’t want to get hurt even more because we are still around him/her. However, it might be the best thing for us to fall in love to our own best friend but it could be the worst thing as well because if we have done the relationship, we are not just losing our boyfriend/girlfriend, but also our best friend.
ReplyDelete“Friendship can end in love, but love in friendship? Never!” This saying is most definitely true for a lot of people, you just can’t suddenly be in love with someone. It takes time, from getting to know them, finding comfort in them during your hard times, and the next thing you know you’re in love with them. All of those steps happens when you are friends with someone. So the first statement, “Friendship can end in love” is true. But when you’re in love with someone, and you got into a deep, caring, loving relationship with someone, and because of whatever reason it is you guys broke up, it is very less likely that you will end up staying as friends. You’ll most likely block or got blocked off of their social media, and practically got cut out of their life or cut them out of your life completely no matter how much you matter or how they matter to you during those happy, lovey-dovey times. Relationships are messy and people feelings get hurts. That’s why I completely agree with that old saying.
ReplyDeleteNot going to lie, this has been an emotionally triggering article to talk about. To answer the question in short, yes, friendship can end in love, but love in friendship would never work. I personally think the best kind of relationship starts off with a friendship. Friendship is the foundation and the early stages before leading to love and creating a relationship. I don’t see a reason why friendship can’t end in love because in my opinion, I think it is very natural to develop the feeling or sense of love towards someone within a friendship. However, love in friendship never works out in my opinion. So, ‘love in friendship’ in terms of a relationship breaking off but continuing the friendship, won’t work out because if you’ve gone through all the long stages and phases from being friends and then starting a relationship together that eventually breaks off, it means that there has been a flaw between the two individuals that lead to a breakup in the first place. Continuing the friendship after a breakup is pointless as you’ve already found a flaw between the two of you, which whatever it is, certainly is intolerable for the two individuals.
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